Article: 110 of ucam.mlist.texhax From: texhax-request@tex.ac.uk Subject: TeXhax digest, Vol 2002 #6 - 10 msgs MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:05:13 +0000 Send TeXhax mailing list submissions to texhax@tex.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/texhax or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to texhax-request@tex.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at texhax-admin@tex.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of TeXhax digest..." TeXhax Digest ________________________________________ Volume 2002 : Number 6 Today's Topics: 1. UKTUG meeting, Nottingham, Saturday 12 October (David Rhead) 2. Takashima Sanskrit Babel Hyphenation (Daniel Stender) 3. TUGboat 22,1/2 (Mimi Burbank) 4. TUG 2003 news, November 22, 2002 (TUG 2003 conference) 5. \cite in footnote (Ot van Daalen) 6. TeX development fund (TeX Development Fund) 7. Re: \cite in footnote (Robin Fairbairns) 8. Index entries and footnotes in LaTeX (Mark A. Sheldon) 9. Re: \cite in footnote (Ot van Daalen) 10. TUG news: LaTeX class at TUG'03, election (TUG office) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:52:48 +0100 (BST) From: David Rhead To: TeXhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: UKTUG meeting, Nottingham, Saturday 12 October TeX users in the UK may be interested in the meeting of the UK TeX Users Group at the University of Nottingham on Saturday 12th October. Further details are given at http://uk.tug.org/uk-tug/agm-2002/. David Rhead Information Services University of Nottingham --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:21:52 +0200 Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ From: Daniel Stender To: texhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: Takashima Sanskrit Babel Hyphenation Who can send me the Babel subsystem hyphenation packet for romanized transliterated Sanskrit (skttr.ldf or else) Greetings, D.Stender, Germany ______________________________________________________________________________ Die clevere Geldreserve: der DiBa-Privatkredit. Funktioniert wie ein Dispo, ist aber viel gunstiger! Alle Infos: http://diba.web.de/?mc=021104 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:51:44 -0400 To: TUGboat announcement , tub-prod@csit.fsu.edu, office@tug.org, texhax@tex.ac.uk, tex-eds@nic.surfnet.nl, tug-pub@tug.org Subject: TUGboat 22,1/2 From: Mimi Burbank For your reading pleasure - we shipped the issue to Cadmus on Monday, Sept 9, 2002. The contents are listed below. This message was also sent to your mailing list on the 9th, but evidently never arrived. I received my copy of the issue on September 29, and you should be receiving yours shortly. We are working hard on the getting the December 2001 issue together while we await the files for the 2001 Proceedings. Let me encourage (urge?) those of you who occasionally think, "I think I should write an article about that!" to go ahead and write up something and submit it to tugboat@tug.org. Our recent pleas for submissions have gratefully brought us submissions from new sources. Keep it up and we'll be back on track in no time! Mimi Burbank (or the TUGboat production team) TUGboat Volume 22, Number 1/2 March/June 2001 ======================================== Addresses 3 General Delivery Mimi Jett From the President 5 Barbara Beeton Editorial comments 6 We're late ...; CTAN and ``The treasure chest''; TeX Mexico User Group; Goodbye to Father Larguier; Some places to learn more about books and printing; 5000 years of the written word; The Gutenberg Bible online; Xy-pic home moved to TUG; Legibility study online Jim Hefferon Why TeX? 8 Question & Answer session with Donald Knuth, U.K. TUG, Oxford, Sunday, 12 September 1999 15 How AllTeX changed the face of mathematics: An E-interview with Leslie Lamport, the author of LaTeX 20 Typography Peter Flynn Typographers' inn 23 Font Forum Frank Mittelbach Laudatio for Professor Hermann Zapf 24 Hermann Zapf My collaboration with Don Knuth and my font design work 26 Software & Tools Barbara Beeton Hyphenation exception log 31 Laura Elizabeth Jackson and Herbert Voss LyX --- An Open Source document processor 32 Adam H. Lewenberg DVII: A TeX dvi file information utility 42 Graphics Applications John D. Hobby Drawing graphs with MetaPost 46 Reports Hans Hagen The status quo of the NTS project 58 Hints & Tricks William Adams The treasure chest 67 Tutorials George Gratzer Publishing legacy documents on the Web 74 Denis Roegel Anatomy of a macro 78 Macros Victor Eijkhout The bag of tricks 83 LaTeX Frank Mittelbach The trace package 93 Abstracts Les Cahiers GUTenberg, Contents of issues 35/36 (May 2000) and 37/38 (December 2000) 100 News & Announcements Calendar 103 TUG '2001 Announcement 105 Cartoon Roy Preston Typohol Anon 4 TUG Business Susan DeMeritt Minutes of TeX Users Group Annual General Meeting, 15 August 2000, Oxford, England 106 Don DeLand Financial statement, 2000 107 Arthur Ogawa TUG Election Notice 108 Institutional members 109 TUG membership application 110 Advertisements TeX consulting and production services 111 Just Published: TeX Reference Manual by David Bausum 112 Blue Sky Research c3 -------- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Phone: (850)644-2440 mimi@csit.fsu.edu FAX: (850)644-0098 . "One of the problems of modern life is that people who are good at being civil often lack strong convictions, and people who have strong convictions often lack civility." (By Way of Response, by Martin E. Marty) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:59:22 -0500 From: tug2003@tug.org (TUG 2003 conference) To: texhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: TUG 2003 news, November 22, 2002 TUG2003 CONFERENCE IN HAWAII The Silver Anniversary -- 25 years!-- of TeX The TeX Users Group 24th Annual Meeting and Conference is scheduled for July 20-24, 2003 at the Outrigger Waikoloa Beach Resort, Big Island, Hawaii. Abstracts for talks and workshops (deadline extended to 30-Nov-2002); Posters (deadline 9-Jun-2003). See: http://www.tug.org/tug2003/callfor.html. Please help to publicize TUG2003 by posting copies of the following flyer (PDF) at your office and around your institution: http://www.tug.org/tug2003/flyer/. Contributions are welcome! To find out how you can help: http://www.tug.org/tug2003/help.html. For details about the conference: http://www.tug.org/tug2003/ Email: tug2003@tug.org --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Ot van Daalen" To: texhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: \cite in footnote Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:37:31 -0400 I have a question regarding \cite and \bibliographystyle. Dutch legal articles have to cite like this: This is a citation.\footnote{Author year, p. 34.} \cite, however, places the citation in the body of the text. Of course I can always use \footnote to put the cite in a footnote, but I thought it would be cleaner to let \cite do the work. However, all customized bibliographystyles I know (and can be made by makebst) cite in the body. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks! -- Otto _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:17:48 -0500 From: devfund@tug.org (TeX Development Fund) To: texhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: TeX development fund TUG (the TeX Users Group) initiated a new project last year: a TeX Development Fund. It was officially announced at the TUG 2002 conference in India, and there have been a few announcements since to comp.text.tex and other forums. The idea is to financially support TeX-related projects to the best of our ability. If you are currently involved in a TeXnical project, or have an idea for one but need a little financial assistance, please consider applying. Please see http://tug.org/tc/devfund/ for more information and an online application page, or email devfund@tug.org. The primary deadline for applications is February 1, 2003. Finally, we would like to acknowledge that other TeX user groups have long established similar programs. It is not our intention to detract from or compete with anyone else (just the opposite!), but only to do what we can to foster the growth of TeX. Please repost/forward this notice to anywhere you think appropriate. Thanks, Kaja Christiansen, Karl Berry --__--__-- Message: 7 To: "Ot van Daalen" cc: texhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: Re: \cite in footnote Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:00:13 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns > I have a question regarding \cite and \bibliographystyle. Dutch legal > articles have to cite like this: > > This is a citation.\footnote{Author year, p. 34.} > > \cite, however, places the citation in the body of the text. Of course I can > always use \footnote to put the cite in a footnote, but I thought it would > be cleaner to let \cite do the work. what's wrong with \newcommand{\fcite}[1]{\footnote{\cite{#1}}} (or something slightly more complicated if you need the optional argument to \cite) > However, all customized bibliographystyles I know (and can be made by > makebst) cite in the body. the way \cite (and friends) appears is nothing to do with the bibliography style -- that merely provides the text that the citation is made up from. the jurabib bundle is designed to support german lawyers' citation style; it may be worth investigating whether it does what you need. robin --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:09:16 -0500 From: "Mark A. Sheldon" To: texhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: Index entries and footnotes in LaTeX While we're on the subject of footnotes: Does anyone know why otherwise identical \index commands are treated differently in footnotes and in the body of the text? Plain index entries seem OK, it's when the indexed item contains a command: Eg, \newcommand{\fooname}{{\sc Foo}} Here is text in the body\index{Foo@\fooname} of a document.\footnote{Foo\index{Foo@\fooname}} Produces two distinct entries in the index: FOO 511 FOO 511 When I first noticed this, I thought it was that \sc might is differently bound in footnotes. But here are the entries in the .idx file: \indexentry{Foo@\fooname}{511} \indexentry{Foo@{\sc Foo}}{511} Why is \fooname expanded in the item from the \footnote and not otherwise? Confession: Yes, it's an old document and LaTeX is running in 2.0.9 compatibility mode, though it doesn't seem relevant given the expansions above. -Mark --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Ot van Daalen" To: Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: \cite in footnote Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:34:28 -0400 Thanks for all the reactions and excuse me for my slow reply. I opted for the solution below, as it seems to be the most adaptable for future changes. Thanks a lot however! -- Ot >From: Robin Fairbairns >To: "Ot van Daalen" >CC: texhax@tex.ac.uk >Subject: Re: \cite in footnote Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:00:13 +0000 > > > I have a question regarding \cite and \bibliographystyle. Dutch legal > > articles have to cite like this: > > > > This is a citation.\footnote{Author year, p. 34.} > > > > \cite, however, places the citation in the body of the text. Of course I >can > > always use \footnote to put the cite in a footnote, but I thought it >would > > be cleaner to let \cite do the work. > >what's wrong with > > \newcommand{\fcite}[1]{\footnote{\cite{#1}}} > >(or something slightly more complicated if you need the optional >argument to \cite) > > > However, all customized bibliographystyles I know (and can be made by > > makebst) cite in the body. > >the way \cite (and friends) appears is nothing to do with the >bibliography style -- that merely provides the text that the citation >is made up from. > >the jurabib bundle is designed to support german lawyers' citation >style; it may be worth investigating whether it does what you need. > >robin > >_______________________________________________ >TeXhax mailing list >TeXhax@tex.ac.uk >http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/texhax _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:57:53 -0500 From: office@tug.org (TUG office) To: texhax@tex.ac.uk Subject: TUG news: LaTeX class at TUG'03, election A few items for your consideration. - TUG 2003 Conference: The Silver Anniversary -- 25 years!-- of TeX The TeX Users Group 24th Annual Meeting and Conference is scheduled for July 20-24, 2003 at the Outrigger Waikoloa Beach Resort, Big Island, Hawaii. See http://tug.org/tug2003/. NEW NEWS :) -- A beginning/intermediate class on LaTeX will take place just before the conference, from July 15-18 at the University of Hawaii at Hilo. Enrollment is limited to 12. The cost is $275 ($300 after April 1, so register now!). See https://www.tug.org/tug2003/latexclass.html for more information and the registration form. If you have any questions about the class, please email Sue Demeritt at susan.demeritt@tug.org. - TUG Election: The terms of the TUG President and of 11 members of the Board of Directors will end as of the 2003 meeting of the TUG Board of Directors, which will take place in conjunction with TUG 2003 in Hawaii. Please consider getting involved with TUG by running for the board or for president. Nomination forms are due by February 1; see http://tug.org/election/ for more information. Thank-you, Robin Laakso (office@tug.org) for the TUG board (board@tug.org) --__--__-- About TeXhax... 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