\centerline{\bf barbara speaks} \smallskip\noindent I found the coverage of the various \SGML-related meetings to be very interesting, especially as I have been for several years a member of the \ISO\ standards committee from which the \SGML\ standard emerged, and (long) before that a member of the committee of the Graphic Communications Association (GCA) in the days when GenCode (a spiritual precursor of \SGML) first began to be defined. In the US, I'm also a member of the \ANSI\ technical committee that has jurisdiction over both \SGML{} and ODA. (However, the task group I actually belong to is working on a font standard, not on any of the document-level standards.) I found it quite interesting that the ODA folks are trying to sneak ``Open'' into the name. This is all very well, except that the \ISO\ documents all still say ``Office'', and I don't believe that approval has yet been given officially to the change. Yes, the intent is to support ``open'' interchange (whatever that is), but the fact is, the source of the concepts on which ODA is based really is the office, and there are certain limitations that publishers find unacceptable. But that's not what I really wanted to talk about. The topic that interests me here is the concept that a system of math coding can be devised that can be both input to algebraic manipulation systems {\it and\/} used to publish the results of such manipulation in documents that are paragons of the (mathematical) typesetter's art. One of the organizations investigating this area is Euromath, a consortium of European national mathematics organizations. Euromath has requested funds from the European Community. One of the EC's requirements is that development of tools of this sort be based on International Standards (read \ISO). (Some individuals associated with Euromath would like very much to use \TeX, but \TeX, though more tightly defined than most International Standards, is not itself an International Standard. And, in fact, I shudder to think what would happen if \TeX{} were placed at the mercy of a Standards Committee; the results might be very interesting, but I doubt very much that they would be \TeX! But I digress.) The most promising existing International Standard on which to base the development of a multi-purpose mathematical notation seems to be \SGML; I happen to agree with this analysis, as both mathematical notation and \SGML{} are highly structured in an essential way. In any event, I believe that work may actually be underway shortly on studying the problems in devising suitable notation. Paul Ellison of Exeter University is familiar with what is going on, and is much closer to the center of activity than I, so he should be in a good position to provide an update. I would also like to reiterate that \SGML{} isn't a composition language; was never meant to be one. More than one successful \SGML{} front end has generated publications through a \TeX{} back end, and where mathematical notation is involved, it's still the best combination I've seen, if you can't start with \TeX. \author{barbara beeton} \endinput