\centerline{\bf Publishing at the OU} \smallskip \noindent This first one-day meeting that the BCS Electronic Publishing Specialist Group had held outside London, at least within `living memory', was held at The Open University on September 28th and organized by Paul Bacsich. Most of the speakers were from the Open University, Peter Hammersley from Middlesex Polytechnic being the only `outsider' as the other external speaker had to withdraw shortly before the meeting. Nonetheless it was a very interesting day, made even more interesting by the related demonstrations which ran through the breaks in the day. While demonstrations by manufacturers are welcome and helpful, those by people using equipment to carry out real tasks are often more revealing. After the formal welcomes, the first speaker was John Feltham who gave the rationale for investing in high-end EP, in particular the `CAPS' system used by the OU, which runs under \unix\ on SUN workstations. Advantages include the multi-user facility, the greater speed of operation and the greater power of the software. PC- and Mac-based systems do not provide the formatting facilities which CAPS provides and although output from Microsoft Word direct to the typesetter is a possibility, the macro and style-sheet facilities of CAPS provide a way of imposing uniform procedures and styles where required with an output quality of professional standards. Chris Rowley and Bob Coates talked about the other approach at the OU, that of using \TeX{}, to produce mathematical and technical documents. The advantages include the facility for the users to see what the final typeset output will look like at every stage, as well as all the other advantages of \TeX{}, which are probably familiar to readers of \TeXline. The OU have five keyboarders who spend at least some of their time on \TeX{} and 6000 pages a year are output, almost entirely at 300\,dpi. \LaTeX{} is used for input. Paul Bacsich and Robin Kydd described the use of Microsoft Word Rich Text Format (RTF) as a generic coding language. The use of style sheets defined using RTF avoids the use of direct formatting by keyboarders (which can produce disastrous results when translated to the CAPS system). The disadvantage of RTF is that it is essentially linear and has no depth. When translated for the CAPS system, the paragraph styles are only taken as name and number (that is, the actual MS style sheet is ignored), while at the character level the actual coding is translated, for example, italic and bold and sorts characters. Robin Kydd described the problems involved in the translation process, particularly those involving tables, lists and symbols, and finished by suggesting that more generality was needed and this tended in the direction of \sgml. Peter Hammersley's talk followed on very appositely as he discussed some of the problems involved in translating from MS-Word into Ventura. The project was the very practical one of producing a book of conference papers. The papers were in the main submitted electronically and then tagged. \hbox{Peter} described both 1988 when tags were added using the Ventura editor which was very tedious and difficult, and 1989 when the tags were put in using MS-Word, which was easier. However, translation into Ventura produced some strange effects, which Peter accepted could be explained and even by-passed, but his point was that the naive user of such packages would find these effects a serious problem. Finally Paul Lefrere discussed table design. He pointed out that within standard packages such as Ventura, MS-Word and even CAPS tables can be very hard to produce to the specification required. He analysed what could be done with the various packages (and with a specialized package `TableTools') and how long these operations can take, that is, how cost effective the different packages can be. The high-end packages, not surprisingly, come out better than the standard DTP packages, but TableTools was definitely the winner in terms of value for money, being relatively cheap. The meeting was well attended and discussions indicated that those attending found it of interest. That it was actually on site made it that much more so. \rightline{\sl David Penfold}